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Carbon Freezing Chamber

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This is a map I made for Elite Force that I've converted to Jedi Knight 2. It has kindly been rendered for me by those chaps at Ravenssoft until JO radiant comes out. This map will be part of a MUCH bigger Cloud City map later this year with the Falcon that you can walk inside which is being made by my friend [XG]Darth Vader.

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Level Info:

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File Size:
7.3 MiB
Date:
2002-04-12
Author:
LivingDeadJedi
Downloads:
16324

Ratings:

Score (0-10):
9
# of Ratings:
64
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Rogue15
Posted: 2002-04-12 5:00 p.m.   Report Abuse
i want jedi outcast....

btw, nice screenies!
DeTRiTiC-iQ
Posted: 2002-04-12 5:02 p.m.   Report Abuse
Thanks for submitting the map to Massassi, hopefully this will give us a good start in the files section.

Screenies look good, downloading now (damned 56k)
The_1_ERADICATOR
Posted: 2002-04-12 5:09 p.m.   Report Abuse
AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!! excellent work
Gangster
Posted: 2002-04-12 5:26 p.m.   Report Abuse
Yeah, it was great! I gave it a 9, now if only i could get a better processor for my game to run more smoothly and I'd be in multiplayer action with this baby.
moronmission
Posted: 2002-04-12 5:27 p.m.   Report Abuse
Darn it! I started drooling all over my keyboard. This level is better than the default mp levels. Well duh, I give it a 10!
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-12 6:25 p.m.   Report Abuse
can't wait till the big map comes out later, man. that Falcon should also make for some detailed JO SP levels, too.
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-12 6:29 p.m.   Report Abuse
wait a sec, man. Massassi doesn't have any instructions for installing JO stuff. could you be so kind??? (whimpering like a hyper child) I wanna plaaaayyyy it!!!!
ZDawg
Posted: 2002-04-12 6:46 p.m.   Report Abuse
Nice level. 10

Note to all: read the help file in the zip.
Put the PK3 file into your base dir of JO.
Pommy
Posted: 2002-04-12 6:48 p.m.   Report Abuse
I declare this the first official JO MP lvl on massassi! :-D


It's really nice. Makes that damned JO FFA a lot more fun.
_Nergen_
Posted: 2002-04-12 7:34 p.m.   Report Abuse
OMG OMG OMG!!! THE GANTRY!!! WOOHOO!!! Great work, In your previous showcasing of this map I thought that the outside of that building would look too large and blocky to portray the true feeling of the map, but I am wrong. It looks spectacular. Could you tell me how I can get a hold of Raven if my map is done before their SDK comes out? It would be a great help, Thanks.
The_1_Baal
Posted: 2002-04-12 8:02 p.m.   Report Abuse
Wow man.. Looks very good ;), Hopefully we see LOTS of levels that are as good as this one ;).
Aglar
Posted: 2002-04-12 8:13 p.m.   Report Abuse
Great work!
blujay
Posted: 2002-04-12 8:16 p.m.   Report Abuse
Great work.
Emon
Posted: 2002-04-12 9:52 p.m.   Report Abuse
I give it an 8, great level for an EF to JO conversion! Now I know you can't do much at the moment without an SDK, but here are suggestions for a future SE version or remake that could make it a classic JO level (it almost already is).

1. Fix the funky colored sticks that result when breaking those two objects.

2. Change many of the textures, such as the Carbo Freeze floor with the red glowpanels, the textures on the big open shaft, to the ones in JO, or, the ones more commonly seen in JO.

3. Add fog to the Carbo Freeze area, it woudl create an awesome effect and mood!

4. Add red light to the Carb area.

5. Add a functioning carbon freezer like the one in MotS (would take some work, might not be worth it).

6. Add the machine/computer-like hum to the envirnment, just like in the movie, to create a more moody admosphere.

7. Any other enhancements one could think of...

Again, those are just suggestions for the future when the SDK is released. But like I said, great level! Much better than the original JO carb freeze level.
Emon
Posted: 2002-04-12 9:52 p.m.   Report Abuse
BTW, I like the sound of that big project.
[L0rD]BloodAsp
Posted: 2002-04-12 9:58 p.m.   Report Abuse
as this is a fraction, i give it a 9, anyway, this map rocks, u need to make more traps, that frezzing chamber thing is a good trap, but its hard to square them right in the middle
BlackKnight
Posted: 2002-04-12 10:01 p.m.   Report Abuse
well between the coments and the screens I have to say I think this level is going to deserve a ten, but I got to sownload and play it first :)
BlackKnight
Posted: 2002-04-12 10:21 p.m.   Report Abuse
yes indeed this is a great level, it is a little small but like Livingdeadjedi said it is going to be part of a larger level anyhow.

10/10 nice work !
jeremiah23
Posted: 2002-04-13 1:15 a.m.   Report Abuse
Very excellent level . No complaints . 10 of 10 . Thanks
dreetje31
Posted: 2002-04-13 1:41 a.m.   Report Abuse
Great level, looks great, just like in Empire. Now for a vader to throw into the frenzy and we are good to go
Just one question, is just me or are the bots super jumpy in this level??
Well any way a 10
Gee_4ce
Posted: 2002-04-13 2:10 a.m.   Report Abuse
This is just LEET!

Someone pass a tissue, my mouth's making a mess...

*Downloads*
dreetje31
Posted: 2002-04-13 3:50 a.m.   Report Abuse
I already posted a comment, but I really need to know why the bots are so damn jumpy in this level. I start the game and all the bots are just jumping around, flipping and slashing, they never ever stay on the ground, you can't hit them it a bit like a Super Mario game. Am I doing something wrong or is this something that's is part of the level, which is still great, but the jumpy bots do tend to take the fun out after a while
Help anyone??
Sam Bickley
Posted: 2002-04-13 4:47 a.m.   Report Abuse
Nice work man, looks just like the one off MotS but the textures are much, much better.

You even included that depressurisation when you break the window (in movie and MotS)

Very nice work, gave it a 9 -would've been a 10 if you had made your own map (this allready done in MotS)
Grale
Posted: 2002-04-13 6:40 a.m.   Report Abuse
Great Level love the Gantry.....

Just one thing, Im trying to load the map into singleplayer so i can spawn some guys to fight on the gantry (much better than Bots)but i get error message.... ERROR Missing 1 sound sets.!
when i enter :- devmap ffa_carbonfreeze...
and level fails to load.! any one help??
AKPiggott
Posted: 2002-04-13 6:51 a.m.   Report Abuse
Very good work... the lighting could stand to be a bit darker in the actual freezing chamber and it would be cool if that window was breakable, but I understand that that is impossible without the SDK. All we need now are some good Vader and ESB Luke skins and someone can convert this into a decent SP level...
Darth Vedder
Posted: 2002-04-13 7:48 a.m.   Report Abuse
The architecture and all is good but the gameplay surely isn't that good. perhaps with no bots it's ok.
First of all it's too laggy.
Secondly I won on jedi master skill with 15 to -2, -2, -3, -7, -12, -13, -14.
Yay...
sithlordx1000
Posted: 2002-04-13 9:40 a.m.   Report Abuse
Nice level! Keep up the good work! I'm glad somebody made the feezing chamber w/ the gantry and all. In MotS that was prob. my favorite DM level. That whole Cloud City map would kick ass. All we need know is a Bespin Luke and a cool Vader. A+++
sithlordx1000
Posted: 2002-04-13 9:45 a.m.   Report Abuse
Hi again. I agree with Anthony on some of those things. That would be great if the window was breakable and stuff. I didnt try it but can you knock people into the freezing chamber and freeze em? And (I don't make maps, mods, etc.) whats SDK? And is there an expansion coming out for JKII? Plz get back to me someone. Thanks.
_Nergen_
Posted: 2002-04-13 9:50 a.m.   Report Abuse
If you're talking about that circular window, I broke it open. When I did, a crap load of XYZ lines popped up around it, then after a while, they each disappeared. Again if this is what you're talking about, I LAUGH AT YOU! BWAHAHAHA!!!
[D6]Koobie
Posted: 2002-04-13 10:09 a.m.   Report Abuse
Sweet screenshots (specially the 1st one)! How much does JO cost?
Eike Legien
Posted: 2002-04-13 10:49 a.m.   Report Abuse
Nice level.I give it a 10 :)
JL_Qui_Gon_Jinn
Posted: 2002-04-13 11:03 a.m.   Report Abuse
great level - also has no complaints
dreetje31
Posted: 2002-04-13 11:27 a.m.   Report Abuse
Could someone please answer me?? Why do bots in this level jump around like complete idiots?
SRA_Crono
Posted: 2002-04-13 12:19 p.m.   Report Abuse
Its a great level, you can bust the window, bots jump like crazy because they have no way points for the level meaning no one programmed bot routes for the map.. yay
SRA_Crono
Posted: 2002-04-13 12:19 p.m.   Report Abuse
Its a great level, you can bust the window, bots jump like crazy because they have no way points for the level meaning no one programmed bot routes for the map.. yay
Bobbert006
Posted: 2002-04-13 1:05 p.m.   Report Abuse
This is a pretty awesome level except for the fact that all the bots do is commit suicide. I can't wait untill the rest of it comes out.
bobafett_765
Posted: 2002-04-13 1:31 p.m.   Report Abuse
Excellent level!

But what's up with those red\blue\green fragments when you break that gantry window thing?

Anyway...a great level and the first addon JO MP level released, so I'll give it a 9!

Again, Great job!
Gee_4ce
Posted: 2002-04-13 1:52 p.m.   Report Abuse
Well I guess looks aren't everything.

There were some annoying niggles in this level, and whilst I can't rerate it, I'll give it a seven here and now.

Yes, it looks lovely, yes it's a very good representation of a damn fine level, but it is let down by:

Bots that are clearly making a bid to fly.

XYZ lines on breakable parts.

Elite Force and even WATER sound effects when you step on some consoles.

Weird carbon chamber textures (the JO ones are quite adequate in my view) and no coloured lighting in that area.

I know I'm being hard hitting and critical and that I couldn't make a level to save my life, but it's just annoying when things like this stop this good level from being a GREAT level.

Of course it's early days and the full Cloud City version that we are being promised could well rock. But this is a level I can't play. The bots don't work, and it would be just too laggy online with the huge open areas outside.

Not terrible, not bad, just good, but not overly excellent as I was expecting it to be.

Keep up the good work though and I look forward to the next release. Hopefully with a full on JORadiant behind it, it should work better! What's here IS good, but it doesn't feel quite finished.
Sith_Xanatos__
Posted: 2002-04-13 3:07 p.m.   Report Abuse
I think that JORadiant will be the same... It may include like, advanced skining... ect. But LucasArts/Raven hadn't really promised anything that their radiant will be any different to q3. If someone would be so kind as to give me the link to which one or the other had said that.
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-13 7:32 p.m.   Report Abuse
looks like a great level, but I agree with Gee_4ce, you should use the original textures when you make the big level. man, I can't wait!
dreetje31
Posted: 2002-04-14 3:46 a.m.   Report Abuse
Thanks for explaining it to me Crono
Culbe
Posted: 2002-04-14 6:46 a.m.   Report Abuse
1st lvl...SWEET!!!!!!!
Bage
Posted: 2002-04-14 9:35 a.m.   Report Abuse
Great level but a lot smaller than what I would of thought for a 7 meg file
Tycho575
Posted: 2002-04-14 1:09 p.m.   Report Abuse
Is that a Darth Maul skin I see up in the corner? When do we get to use it, eh? I think it would be good. This looks like the perfect level for a saber fight. This game can support battles that run close to the intensity from Episode I, in terms of how they look, feel, and run. (toast to LEC), now we just need those skins and a Duel of the Fates arena complete w/ music!
Tycho575
Posted: 2002-04-14 1:10 p.m.   Report Abuse
Is that a Darth Maul skin I see up in the corner? When do we get to use it, eh? I think it would be good. This looks like the perfect level for a saber fight. This game can support battles that run close to the intensity from Episode I, in terms of how they look, feel, and run. (toast to LEC), now we just need those skins and a Duel of the Fates arena complete w/ music!
Belacqua
Posted: 2002-04-14 5:54 p.m.   Report Abuse
Liked it... but a lot of things could be different.

First off, remember when Luke gets sucked into the venting system after Vader tells him aabout their relation? You should put that in, being sucked in there, and just die or someting. It just makes it more intresting than falling to the floor.

Second, the bit where you break the window? Make it so someone gets sucked out if they get too near everytime, not just when you break it. And don't make it as powerful. You go zooming over to the other side of the arena, making the platform below it useless.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. Like the guy above said, use the orginal carbon chamber textures in SP. Looks much better that way. And does the freezing actually work? I can see the cracks for where the thing opens, but when I press the button, nothing happens. Does someone have to be standing on it? I'll have to try it.

All in all, it's a pretty kickin' level. Good job. Gave it an 8.
psychopenguin
Posted: 2002-04-15 7:54 a.m.   Report Abuse
great but i want to use this map in single player but it says something about a missing sound set and wont let me. does anyone know how to fix this
Heero Yuy
Posted: 2002-04-15 12:05 p.m.   Report Abuse
I just noticed that dreetje31 was being ignored... The problem is with bots is that in all the other levels there is a set path for the bots to follow, allthough they go off path if they find a target, and in this level they have no data to tell them whats a floor and whats not or how to walk in a strait line, so they do what everybody would do, go crazy while jumping up and down as a result of mass confusion... that's what I would do anyway.
-EDIT- After I read more I realized he had been answered... oh well
SavageX
Posted: 2002-04-15 1:44 p.m.   Report Abuse
Heh, those Quake 3 bots are funny. In Unreal Tournament, if the bots don't know where to go, they just stand still, not jump like crazy like the quake 3 bots do.

I wish I could comment on this level but I have yet to buy a copy of JO. By the screenshots though, it looks like a good level. I'm impressed that someone managed to create a JO level without the SDK. Anyhow, once I get JO, I'll rate this level.

-- SavageX
DimReality
Posted: 2002-04-16 3:01 p.m.   Report Abuse
I also saw that Darth Maul pic up in the corner as some1 earlier mentioned...was this created by the level author or did he get it somewhere else? Either way i'd like to have it.

but yes the level looks good from screen shots, havent downloaded it yet, w/ my 56k it will probably take half an hour or more just for something of that size. If the new version of this has those suggestions above put into it though, i think that it would be worth all the time to download.
SpaRTeCH
Posted: 2002-04-17 6:31 p.m.   Report Abuse
leet hax0r omi...
Sam Bickley
Posted: 2002-04-18 1:21 p.m.   Report Abuse
Ok,
This level is good, however, everyone is giving it FAR too much credit.

There are many bugs and it could be much better, do not overrate a map just because it is the first one to come out.
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-19 7:33 p.m.   Report Abuse
This an email I got from the author which should clear up some things. Hmm, did anyone else get this e-mail?
"yep i used Original textures for Core in my carbon freeze map
it was bespin/shaftwall

i was going to use the carbon room texture for the floor but in the end just used the ones for the stairs because

1. their textures didnt fit ???
2. they are no where near the same as in the movie
ive compared them to a screenshot i took and laughed till i fell off my chair HAHA even told the ravens bloke this and he agreed.......
Dont worry though i shall add that floor light of mine to a decent texture and make it glow

Raven did bugger up the bsp of my map what with the carbon room pit being to fast
glass shards werent there when ya break window
water texture
Texture wasnt aligned in 1 bit
ALL MODELS WERE MISSING even though they were there on first beta test ???????? and the bot roams i added for raven to change to jk2 ones WELL they didnt do it thats why bots jump about
so not my fault BOOHOO
could ya tell everyone pleeeeease =]]]]]]"
Yeah; he decided to contact me for some reason, I'm just a newbie to this site. Where are e-mail addresses listed? Anyways, I fulfilled the wish of the creator so please give me some respect ;).
Twitch
Posted: 2002-04-20 2:08 p.m.   Report Abuse
Keeping in mind that the map is only a fraction of what the end product will be, I still have to critique it:

1) The window everyone's talking about bugs me too. XYZ lines scare me :)
2) The outside (in the freezing chamber?). There's a ledge that one gets to by falling down a shaft...there's gonna be other ways to get there, right?
3) item clumps
4) and the stairwell is really to big and clunky.
Darthmaul8me2day
Posted: 2002-04-20 4:00 p.m.   Report Abuse
Nice job man! I give a desired 10! Keep up the good work! and I cant wait for the full level your working on!
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-20 8:17 p.m.   Report Abuse
Saiyaman V, just put it in your Gamedata/base/ folder and it should replace the default Carbon Freeze level. Don't mess around with any console stuff. You'll know its working when the level selection has a different screen for the Carbon Freezing Chamber.
Darth Grapefruit
Posted: 2002-04-20 9:36 p.m.   Report Abuse
Nice Screenies!!!
Excellent Map!!!!
A 10 from the evil grapefruit dude!!!!
KotL_Xavier
Posted: 2002-04-21 1:04 p.m.   Report Abuse
Awesome Level! I can't wait until JO Radiant comes out.
Descent_Pilot
Posted: 2002-04-21 6:23 p.m.   Report Abuse
AMAZING, deserves an 11/10.
Sith_Xanatos__
Posted: 2002-04-21 10:43 p.m.   Report Abuse
...Thats what I thought...
Snake-Eyes
Posted: 2002-04-22 5:08 a.m.   Report Abuse
I gave it a 7 for several reasons.

Texturing was ok, but I did see quite a few mis-alignments.

When I played against Bots, all they did was jump around. Weird, I know, buts it's true.

But on the plus side, the expansive areas to explore were quite nice, not to mention visually stunning. Very atmospheric as well. I thought I was watching Empire Strikes Back, the interactive version.

Its really too bad that Force throw was not implemented in this game, and Darth Vader and Bespin Skywalker were omitted as well.
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-22 2:49 p.m.   Report Abuse
Snake-Eyes, please read what the author has to say about the problems above. It is copy/pasted from an email I got from him.
Accuser
Posted: 2002-04-23 9:15 a.m.   Report Abuse
Needs health spread out more, too many health packs togethor, Makes it way too easy to stay alive by running gathering them coming back with 100 health/shields. Spread them out more and have less of them in the level and it will be one of hte most played/best levels.
darthfergie
Posted: 2002-04-23 3:26 p.m.   Report Abuse
The bots are screwed up. When I played within a minute Luke, Jedi_Trainer,Reelo and Lando all had a score of -8...I quit because the bots can't touch the ground. It might be a good level if you have a bunch of MP friends, but if they arn't on then you play bots. THEY SUCK!!!!!

I give this a 5 because of such a HUGE oversite...hopefully it won't be hard to correct. The level design is awesome though. Really huge. Just PLEASE correct that oversite and it'll be a DEFINATE ten.
darthfergie
Posted: 2002-04-23 3:28 p.m.   Report Abuse
The bots are screwed up. When I played within a minute Luke, Jedi_Trainer,Reelo and Lando all had a score of -8...I quit because the bots can't touch the ground. It might be a good level if you have a bunch of MP friends, but if they arn't on then you play bots. They are HORRIBLE!!!

I give this a 5 because of such a HUGE oversite...hopefully it won't be hard to correct. The level design is awesome though. Really huge. Just PLEASE correct that oversite and it'll be a DEFINATE ten.

Now that JKIIRadiant is out hopefully it won't be long till the BIGGER level comes out. (can't even imagine. This level is big)
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-23 7:17 p.m.   Report Abuse
I'd sell my Half-Life stuff just to have that big level already! Mighty big download, though. My neighborhood only has a 28.8 kbps connection :(. Will the Falcon be based on Matt Surman and Bombshellrapture's creation for JK? They did a derned good job and it'll be hard to beat, LivingDeadJedi...
MamiyaOtaru
Posted: 2002-04-25 5:54 a.m.   Report Abuse
Looks pretty good. Those coloured bits when you break stuff on the gantry are a bit funky. But, this map is slooow. Runs slower than any of the official maps.
BlackPanther
Posted: 2002-04-27 3:21 a.m.   Report Abuse
Not bad at all, but a few more textures would of helped for the authentic movie feel.
Hard Driver
Posted: 2002-04-27 9:55 p.m.   Report Abuse
Actually, Matt had problems when importing his Falcon into his JK2 level, so don't try it!
Tycho575
Posted: 2002-05-04 4:31 p.m.   Report Abuse
I have 5 major critiques
Firstly, the graphics are only so - so, especially the chamber itself. I think if you add more graphic quality to the level it will be much better. In other words, instead of adding the rest of cloud city, expand upon this level.
Secondly, i feel claustraphobic in this level, perhaps a good think to do would be to 'up the scale' a bit.
Thirdly, the level feels a bit overly simplistic, and while it's true to the movie in some ways, i think you should watch the movie again and try to emulate it better. I know that's tough, but i think this level woudl be just awesome if the shapes were more clearly defined. You know, go through it and add another step up in terms of detail. These things matter
Fourthly, I felt that the design of the chamber was wierd. Even in the movie i thought that, but now i'm confused. In the movie, you dont see the walls of the chamber, you see a bloe glow. Things like that, or the window really add effect. You could add depth to the 'pit', and maybe make it so that 'movie' stuff can happen easier. Script stuff, that sort of thing so that you can actually progress through the level as our characters in the movie did.
Lastly, I think it was an ambitious project, and that this level is great but needs some work, and so i would suggest now that the software is available, going through and 'expanding to it, so that you have 'more options' and the level is less liniar.

i think it's a great level, however, and i'm critiquing you by professional standards, so don't hear me saying it's bad, but i think you could really blast the pants off of people with just a little more work.
~In peace
~Tycho Celchu
SilverRaven_2
Posted: 2002-05-12 10:51 a.m.   Report Abuse
Extremly cool level.....all we need now is a vader skin and bot
SithLord7
Posted: 2002-05-13 8:34 a.m.   Report Abuse
I must say it looks impressive. Have yet to DL :-) Well Done!! (Stupid 56K)
IGF Juicer
Posted: 2002-05-17 2:45 p.m.   Report Abuse
ahhhh great first level for JK2! Its really good. I give it a 10 :) I had lots of fun trying to figure out how to get on the things on the sides of the ship sticking out....after awhile i figured it all out. :) and i like the idea of adding that invisible wall near the bottom....you may be able to add this in with some sort of strategies you might have (HINT HINT). anyways, good job :) and i hope you come out with more great levels like this one!
Tarus Rubeus
Posted: 2002-05-20 2:07 p.m.   Report Abuse
Such an awsome level, perfect detail and all. I give it a nine, the only thing I didn't like was the bots jump around crazily. I haven'ted DLed this map in a while, so you might have updated it
Spooky
Posted: 2002-05-21 2:54 a.m.   Report Abuse
simply the best level ive ever seen , great work (: 10 points!
SithLord7
Posted: 2002-05-21 8:12 a.m.   Report Abuse
"Impressive, most impressive."
SithLord7
Posted: 2002-05-21 8:17 a.m.   Report Abuse
Bickly you shut up. Youre the one who posted that stupid kyle skin without any changes. This level is cool accept for the bot problem. That can be fixed. I sincerely doubt that very many people could match this caliber of level making.
SithLord7
Posted: 2002-05-21 8:26 a.m.   Report Abuse
BTW I was referring to bickley's 2nd comment. Have a nice day. thank you. :-)
Bounty Hunter 4 hire
Posted: 2002-05-31 3:17 p.m.   Report Abuse
This level is great. You remained faithful to the best parts of the original while adding some really great parts of your own. The only problems I saw were the suicidal bots that others pointed out and the air current that leads to the botton rarely slows me down. I can't wait to see the bigger one your planning.
Keep up the spectacular work!
Seph31
Posted: 2002-06-06 9:48 a.m.   Report Abuse
will people start making levels with good bot support?¿?¿?
wax_beerman
Posted: 2002-07-29 1:39 p.m.   Report Abuse
Repent!Repent! Throw down your JO and get back to JK, this lvl has proven again that JO is years behind jk in lvls and mods. GOD HELP YOUR SOULS!
livingdeadjedi
Posted: 2002-09-08 4:39 a.m.   Report Abuse
I dont think you can make JO slow you in a fall. But ive come up with a nifty idea
If i place a mesh down the shaft that has the invisble SLIP texture then aim it towards the hole luke is sucked into. I can then make people slide into that hole =]]]
Ive just started work on next version. Totally remade as i know now what whole carbon room looks like =] THANK YOU STARWARS FACT FILES
The Main shaft is 1 huge mother , i mean big as in you can fit 4 ctf_bespins into it sideways and it is the height of the whole jk2radiant drawing area so takes 20 seconds to fall from the very top =]]
FPS for me was 90 so now slowdown from it either WOOHOO =]
livingdeadjedi
Posted: 2002-10-10 12:55 p.m.   Report Abuse
HEHE hey wax-beerman after all this time, and seeing all my maps and other peoples i bet youve eaten your words. In no way does jk DOTF beat my version , well according to the 70,000 downloads it doesnt HEHE.
Deathcheep14
Posted: 2007-02-19 8:06 a.m.   Report Abuse
Awesome!!Livingdeadjedi always comes up with good maps....Hey wait what's this....Its a hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clone Hunter
Posted: 2008-07-12 7:12 p.m.   Report Abuse
iTS ACTUALLY VERY MUCH LIKE THE mots version, except in the cfr several halls led to what looked like a door but it was a wall. i rate a 6

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